Session Start: Mon Jul 18 00:00:00 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[01:18]<+Craig> Thanks again tux
[01:19]<Tux2> no problem Craig
[02:39]<@BC_Programming> sup dudes
[03:49]<@BC_Programming> recommended build for MC 1.7.3 :D
[03:51]<+Craig> Nice!
[03:51]<@BC_Programming> well with bukkit, there was already a recommended Canary build
[03:51]<+Craig> :P
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[12:43]<@BC_Programming> wow... just from my bedroom, kismet has picked up over 172 wireless networks
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> up to 200
[13:37]<+camerongray> Wow
[13:37]<+camerongray> Do you live in a flat or something?
[13:37]<@BC_Programming> seems to have leveled out at 228 now
[13:37]<@BC_Programming> cam: no
[13:37]<@BC_Programming> I'm in a house
[13:38]<+camerongray> Wow
[13:38]<+camerongray> I get like... well... one
[13:38]<+camerongray> Mine
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> this is kismet though, I could only actually get a good enough signal to connect to about 6 of them
[13:38]<+camerongray> Ahh
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> a lot of them I've only captured one packet from, too
[13:39]<+camerongray> I can sometimes pick up one more but that's it
[13:39]<+camerongray> It's not like I'm in the middle of nowehere either - Quite a lot of houses nearby
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> also, with kismet you can see hidden SSIDs, so if somebody thinks they can secure their AP by just hiding the SSID they are mistaken :P
[13:39]<+camerongray> lol
[13:40]<+camerongray> Mine is hidden but has WPA2 as well
[13:40]<+camerongray> And MAC Filtering
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> mine isn't hidden, uses WPA2
[13:40]<+camerongray> Some people have funny SSIDs
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> don't use Mac filtering, occasionally check the client listing though
[13:41]<+camerongray> The amount of people that think MAC is enough
[13:41]<+camerongray> Or none at all
[13:41]<+camerongray> My Friend (Mr Idiot again) said that his was fine because "Nobody would want to hack into it"
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> heh
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> Sounds like he also uses a Mac
[13:42]<+camerongray> Nah
[13:42]<+camerongray> PC
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> oh yeah just wrote like 2 pages on the MC forum defending the honour of MLP
[13:42]<+camerongray> When he was buying it I gave him a list of things not to get such as packard bell or anything less than a Core 2 Duo
[13:43]<+camerongray> So buys a Packard Bell one with a Pentium Dual Core
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> he got a packard bell with something less than a Core 2 Duo didn't he
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> lol
[13:43]<+camerongray> Cost him something mad like ?500
[13:43]<+camerongray> But "The person in PC World said that he won't need any more power"
[13:44]<@BC_Programming> lol
[13:44]<+camerongray> It is the worst thing ever - The whole hinge system moves when you open the screen
[13:45]<+camerongray> And a couple of times he couldn't work it so I did whatever for him while standing up and leant on the front slightly - Whole thing let out a loud creak
[13:45]<+camerongray> And not even a lot of force, just my wrists while I was typing
[13:46]<+camerongray> I dispair with some people
[13:46]<+camerongray> This is also the person who spent about ?100 to buy RAM when I told him the PC wasn't worth it
[13:46]<+camerongray> Stupid thing used RAMBUS
[13:54]<+camerongray> Then when he finaly decided he wanted a new one gave me a ?200 budget
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> lol
[13:57]<+camerongray> But not as bad as who designed the system I am working on at work
[13:57]<+camerongray> Hard coded all the staff names into it
[13:58]<+camerongray> And made the code so complex it can't be maintained
[13:58]<@BC_Programming> yeah you mentioned that
[13:58]<+camerongray> Oh and half the stuff it generates is wrong
[13:58]<@BC_Programming> well that second bit is pretty much PHP in a nutshell really
[13:58]<+camerongray> lol
[14:47]<+Craig> I hate people that trust papers to make the person...
[14:55]<+camerongray> Hey Craig
[14:55]<+Craig> Yo\
[14:59]<+camerongray> How are you?
[14:59]<+Craig> Doing great :)
[14:59]<+Craig> What are you up to?
[14:59]<+camerongray> Nothing much
[14:59]<+camerongray> Busy with work during the day
[14:59]<+camerongray> Just sitting watching TV at the moment
[14:59]<+Craig> Cool, I start work again tomorrow, :)
[14:59]<+camerongray> Cool
[15:00]<+camerongray> What are you doing?
[15:01]<+camerongray> g2g
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[17:01]<+Mulreay> Following LulzSec as there hacking all the news corps websites on twitter.. sooo funny
[17:02]<+Mulreay> The sun (newspaper) website now redirects to the LulzSec twitter page
[17:02]<+Mulreay> LulzSec The Lulz Boat
[17:02]<+Mulreay> WE HAVE JOY WE HAVE FUN, WE HAVE MESSED UP MURDOCH'S SUN
[17:02]<@BC_Programming> it doesn't redirect for me...
[17:03]<@BC_Programming> I do get an internal server error though
[17:03]<+Mulreay> Yeah seems they have taken it down
[17:09]<+Mulreay> LulzSec The Lulz Boat
[17:09]<+Mulreay> Arrest us. We dare you. We are the unstoppable hacking generation and you are a wasted old sack of sh*t, Murdoch. ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER!
[17:28]<@BC_Programming> heh... a crapload of them were arrested last time. Most of them aren't even "hackers" they just use other peoples tools on insecure sites
[17:28]<@BC_Programming> OooooOO scary
[17:29]<+Mulreay> heh, never been to interested in 'hacking' myself but I do love the film
[17:29]<@BC_Programming> film?
[17:30]<+Mulreay> 'Hackers'
[17:30]<+Mulreay> Though it is a FAR reach from reality
[17:30]<@BC_Programming> ohyeah that was slightly meh
[17:30]<@BC_Programming> it didn't diverge as far as a lot of movies though
[17:31]<+Mulreay> true
[17:31]<@BC_Programming> I was about to say another movie I watched but than remembered it wasn't a movie but rather a book
[17:31]<@BC_Programming> which is a bit weird
[17:31]<+Mulreay> heh yeah
[17:31]<+Mulreay> which book?
[17:31]<@BC_Programming> Hackers: Heroes of the computer revolution
[17:31]<+Mulreay> novel?
[17:32]<@BC_Programming> so far, reads more like history from like 1950 or therabouts
[17:32]<+Mulreay> heh
[17:32]<@BC_Programming> well it's actually a PDF, not sure what format it would be
[17:32]<@BC_Programming> seems to read a lot like a novel though
[17:32]<+Mulreay> I think the worst EVER act of trying to use 'hacking' was done in the film 'The Core'
[17:33]<@BC_Programming> is that that dumb movie where they have to go into the core of the earth and start it spinning again or some shite
[17:33]<+Mulreay> yeah
[17:33]<@BC_Programming> and the black guy naturally made the ultimate sacrifice
[17:34]<@BC_Programming> I don't remember the specifics, think it was like "I'll never make it!" "you can" "no I can't, just let the magma in"
[17:34]<@BC_Programming> "oh ok"
[17:34]<@BC_Programming> "no dammit you're suppos *sssssizle*
[17:34]<@BC_Programming> "what did he say?"
[17:34]<@BC_Programming> "he said I can have his stereo"
[17:35]<+Mulreay> But the guy has to 'control the internet' or some shite and he says 'nobody controls the internet' and they say 'with unlimited funds and whatever you need' he smiles and has at best a duo core with dual screens and apparently he can track every given word on the internet to delete anything that would direct to the problem... He wanted zena tapes and hot pockets or something
[17:36]<@BC_Programming> rofl
[17:36]<@BC_Programming> I vaguely remember that, much as you might remember a terrible nightmare
[17:36]<+Mulreay> yeah, possibly the most outlandish thing I've ever seen
[17:37]<+Mulreay> That was the worst hack thing I've personally ever seen
[17:38]<+Mulreay> Not really seen many other hack films... possibly 'swordfish'
[17:38]<+Mulreay> That wasn't too extreme
[17:39]<@BC_Programming> from what I've read that is the worst ever depiction of hacking and computers
[17:39]<+Mulreay> 'too extreme'
[17:39]<+Mulreay> it was cheesy
[17:40]<+Mulreay> But the masses would get very bored actually seeing what hacking intales without fancy images and making it look really tough
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[20:41]<@BC_Programming> http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1182014p1.html << love the last reply
[20:42]<Tux|hidden> Hey, BC_Programming, did you get my memo?
[20:42]<@BC_Programming> oh yeah
[20:42]<@BC_Programming> no idea how that happened... it was probably when I moved that sandstone structure
[20:42]<@BC_Programming> with the costen face on it
[20:43]<@BC_Programming> Although I didn't notice anything unusual at the time
[20:43]<Tux|hidden> lol...
[20:44]<Tux|hidden> you took out half a million blocks...
[20:44]<@BC_Programming> that was when I cut the structure, and moved it... but it didn't affect anything else
[20:44]<Tux|hidden> it lagged the server so much that it kicked you off...
[20:45]<@BC_Programming> oh really? that happened when I was building the underground chamber
[20:45]<Tux|hidden> hmmm....
[20:45]<@BC_Programming> I believe I was making the carpet
[20:45]<Tux|hidden> want the damaged map file?
[20:46]<@BC_Programming> yeah I'll take a look
[20:47]<Tux|hidden> Thanks to worldedit and mcedit I was able to restore most of it. :)
[20:47]<@BC_Programming> yeah I saw that
[20:47]<Tux|hidden> http://tuxreminder.info/world-griefed.zip
[20:47]<@BC_Programming> I saw the conv when Cam was talking about it
[20:48]<@BC_Programming> oh did you see that bukkit has a recommended build for 1.7.3 as well?
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[20:48]<@BC_Programming> fine
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[20:48]<Tux|hidden> Yes, I did
[20:49]<Tux|hidden> question though, the chest/sign wipe thing...
[20:49]<Tux|hidden> should I just keep good backups and pray it doesn't happen on our server?
[20:49]<Tux|hidden> or not upgrade yet.
[20:49]<@BC_Programming> well if that is a bug in 1.7.3, I would think there isn't really a way to avoid it, except to wait for 1.8
[20:49]<@BC_Programming> but 1.8 is changing bloody near everything so that would be a tad silly
[20:49]<@BC_Programming> I'd say backup and pray :P
[20:50]<Tux|hidden> http://leaky.bukkit.org/issues/1052
[20:55]<@BC_Programming> wow that is weird... the map I mean... because I wasn't even in that direction, afaik
[20:56]<@BC_Programming> oh wait, it was from when I moved my sandstone blob thing, because it seems to extend in that direction
[20:56]<Tux|hidden> did you make the sandstone blob in the middle of nowhere?
[20:57]<@BC_Programming> yeah it was supposed to be like a secret, then I decided to move it
[20:57]<Tux|hidden> lol! that was quite the move!
[20:57]<@BC_Programming> weird thing is, when I cut it, there weren't any issues, I had to travel all the way back, after all
[20:58]<Tux|hidden> did you do a //set 0 or anything?
[20:58]<@BC_Programming> it must have been something after, and I didn't reset the selection
[20:58]<Tux|hidden> yeah
[20:58]<Tux|hidden> I wonder what would happen if you jumped on the server and did //undo now
[20:59]<Tux|hidden> jumped*
[20:59]<@BC_Programming> well I was on the server since, I fixed up some of the underground chamber that was reverted and stuff
[20:59]<Tux|hidden> ah, so new selections
[21:00]<Tux|hidden> nevermind then..
[21:00]<@BC_Programming> ahhhh
[21:00]<@BC_Programming> it was when I went to clear some of the land in front of the sandstone structures new location
[21:01]<Tux|hidden> lol!
[21:01]<@BC_Programming> I thought I set both selections I guess and didn't look behind me, lol
[21:01]<Tux|hidden> I should implement a max block count per edit
[21:22]<@BC_Programming> wow I actually got GTA3 working again
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[23:23]<Tux2> hey, BC_Programming, I'm probably going to be sending off a copy of the world on Wednesday to jamesacosten so he can start using it, so if you want to do any last minute tweaks for this version...
[23:23]<@BC_Programming> no not really
[23:23]<@BC_Programming> thx for the notice though :P
[23:24]<Tux2> No problem. I still have some things I want to do with the map, but I do really want to get a copy off to him so he can start using it in the youtube videos
[23:24]<@BC_Programming> ya